说话人A 00:01 let me try to open it 说话人A 00:04 yes can you put that right here 说话人A 00:10 sorry 说话人A 00:12 no worries how are you doing 说话人B 00:14 yeah i'm good i just come back from the bank 说话人A 00:19 from the bank 说话人A 00:20 yeah 说话人A 00:21 oh you open your bank account 说话人A 00:22 um hum 说话人A 00:24 congratulations 说话人B 00:25 thank you 说话人A 00:27 so uh jenny um class participation right that's that's your main question and i've been thinking about this your English is really good and yeah i think i think you should not feel shy speaking up in class what are the impediments that you feel you're facing in 说话人A 00:54 the class participation side of things 说话人B 00:57 well i think so firstly i'm the only Chinese students and i think that my English is not that good and seconds i need time to like i needs to select my opinion and try to like select the better one to to talk it and but after that it will waste too much time and some other classmate already like answer the questions and yeah like this 说话人A 01:25 yeah so so i'll i'll i'll give you two things firstly Abbas is from pakistan i'm from pakistan so you're not the only international person in the class yeah 说话人A 01:39 hello 说话人A 01:40 and not abbas abdullah and and Daniel is from from from spain so like there's there's many students there whose whose English is not their first language so you i'm not saying that in any way but to say that you should not feel self-conscious and alone yeah if if it makes you feel any better i wish i was from china 说话人A 02:07 哈哈哈,because,because,Pakistan and China have like this long,uh,close relationship,and um,and i really admire uh,uh,uh,what China has been able to do on a world scale,and so,my my point is,you should not feel self-conscious at all,right 说话人A 02:27 嗯。 说话人A 02:29 嗯,i think that in terms of what you were saying about wasting time or whatever,this is your time as well,you know you know and this is a connections course 说话人A 02:43 there's nothing there's nowhere we need to get to which means that if you want to improve on your colloquial english this class that discussion session is exactly where you should try to do that 说话人A 02:56 yeah 说话人A 02:58 and i think that what you have to say precisely because you're from one of the sort of non American students your perspective is unique and valuable and i think even the American students they will really appreciate it and learn from what you have to offer because you're thinking about the world from the perspective of your people 说话人A 03:20 right from from China in a certain kind of a way right and and i think that's that's that's invaluable and irreplicable right nobody else can do what you can do so you're like an expert of one right you're the only one who can give us that perspective and you should own that yeah in terms of speaking up in class sort of like the quickness of thinking right that's the whole reason why that classroom assignment is for that weekly assignment is precisely so that you can write any。 说话人A 03:55 questions or confusions that you might have from that week's material 说话人A 03:59 right as well as any special insights you might have like you were like oh my god i just read this chapter and i really want to say something you know i really want to say something about this topic well you write that down and perhaps in the next class when i say ok alright say let's discuss right you should just raise your hands and just go for it right and and i will appreciate it even if not nobody else does because i。 说话人A 04:29 am very much interested in what you have to say 说话人A 04:32 yeah 说话人A 04:33 yeah and you did contribute to the first class i remember 说话人A 04:38 and you said something very cool like i i don't remember exactly what it was but i was like oh yeah their English is good and their their uh they said something really really important and you got that one point for the class participation 说话人A 04:53 ok。 说话人A 04:55 yeah。 说话人A 04:55 yeah,and。 说话人A 04:58 yeah,go for it,go for it。 说话人B 05:00 oh,ok,but my next question is not about class class participate,it's about today's class,actually。 说话人B 05:06 sure,go for it。 说话人B 05:08 so i was thinking about how does violence actually keep unequal social relations stable 说话人A 05:18 are you asking me 说话人A 05:19 yeah yeah yeah 说话人A 05:20 ok how does violence keep unequal social relations 说话人A 05:24 Hmm. 说话人B 05:25 Stable. 说话人A 05:26 stable it does not 说话人B 05:28 it does not 说话人A 05:29 it does not it tries to it tries to and it can for a little bit but it cannot not for a whole time right so it has to constantly do violence right so when we when say in america they say oh police brutality the the police are very violent towards 说话人A 05:51 the black and brown community in America because it they say well we should just reform the police and maybe there will be less violent right but then this police still keep committing violence and then they say oh we should just send some of these police officers we should send them to jail 说话人A 06:09 oh 说话人A 06:09 but the police officers keep committing violence right why is that it's because of the objective violence right so it's not that some police officers do violent things 说话人A 06:58 right violent and racist things it's because policing itself as a structure is meant to do violence right that's what it is designed for and so that is what these people start doing so it's an objective structural condition that policing in America is very different from say policing in China or policing in in in in cuba for instance or c policing in Iran right policing in America comes directly from slavery in America where 说话人A 07:23 the police were used to make sure that the the African American slaves in America don't run away right don't escape to freedom and so that's how that's the lineage of the development of the institution of policing in America so it's not that police officers suddenly show up and they're like oh i'm gonna be very racist today right even if you're not racist 说话人A 07:23 um hum 说话人A 07:36 because you're police at the population level right if you if you blow up at the population level not at the interpersonal level but at the population level the police is meant to do harm 说话人A 08:01 right precisely because through the application of state violence the police constantly reminds all citizens even those whom it kills or hurts as well as their families as well as other citizens right they hey i'm the only one who can kill and hurt people legally 说话人B 08:02 legally yeah 说话人A 08:14 does that make sense so it's an imposition of state orders like stop thinking for yourself you're not gonna take violence into your hands only i can do violence right 说话人A 08:19 so that is the function of police but what does that do does that stop violence forever 说话人A 08:20 no 说话人A 08:20 no right because that lesson the lesson that i am the powerful person i am the state 说话人A 08:29 hmm 说话人A 08:30 right and only i get to be violent that lesson has to constantly be reminded 说话人A 08:36 yeah 说话人A 08:37 otherwise people will just be free 说话人A 08:41 be free 说话人A 08:43 yeah so and and that's how states usually function right 说话人A 08:49 in the United States that violence is also important because of neoliberal capitalism the state actually doesn't do much for its people right so the state doesn't give you health care it doesn't give you very good education it doesn't give you any kinds of very meaningful social security whereas in other parts of the world say for instance in china right education is what the state provides and and provides for free and so 说话人A 09:23 maybe it doesn't need to kill you very much because it says no no i'm the only one who can give you job security i'm the only one who can give you education i'm the only one who is making sure that the price of food is down right so all s- those sorts of things in the united states in capitalist societies because the state doesn't do all those functions it has to assert itself through violence which means that there is no such thing as the state right because because。 说话人A 09:56 what what the name what we call the state in America is very different from what we call the state in China right 说话人A 10:04 and so but because you call both of them states then you can say states are just terrible all states are terrible no not all states are terrible some states are terrible and other states are not yeah so so that kind of a thing right so there are two forms of violence that the state perpetrates it is lawmaking and law preserving that's according to Benjamin right lawmaking means that the state say for instance in america they killed all the native people and。 说话人A 10:37 said all of this is the United States of america this is the constitution it's a slave society 说话人A 10:43 and that's the law all right and that's lawmaking violence right and law-preserving violence is something that the police and the army constantly have to do to make sure that it stays this way right so it's class power yeah yeah 说话人A 11:03 any other questions 说话人A 11:04 Yeah. 说话人B 11:04 Sure but this question is about the last week's liberalism. 说话人B 11:09 ok 说话人B 11:10 yes about that i don't know if i if i could say that which is like those candidates they want to they want to be the president and they will they will publish rule such as the legal like same genders marry and the legal of weed and the legal of everything is that the way that those candidates like wants to want to earn support from those people so they just post this law is is that the reason why they post it 说话人A 11:37 so that's that's one subjective reason why right so and and those candidates might even believe in say same sex marriages and so they fight for it because they really believe in that right so that could be true right and so they they want to convince like minded people who believe in the rights of people different kinds of people to get married and love whoever they want to love so they say to them the lip i am like you let me be your representative right so。 说话人A 12:06 can be like very good good faith stuff right 说话人A 12:09 but the reduction so this was the point about liberalism that i was that that this could be useful is that why can't you just like accept it right why can't you just be like why does it have to be marriage right because marriage is actually not about love at all right marriage is a legal contract that changes your tax status so when you're talking about gay marriage what you're saying is that there are certain your gayness for instance your your same sex relationship 说话人A 12:48 it is love yes it is love to you for me it's taxes right and so the only way your love will be legitimate in this society is if i the state recognize it and the only way i recognize it is i give you a marriage license you see what i'm saying so so it's not like general acceptance right so there's many many homophobic transphobic people not just in the us but all over the world right so the state is not saying hey don't。 说话人A 13:20 be transphobic don't be homophobic it's saying the only way 说话人A 13:25 you are legitimately gay is if the state you ask permission from the state to be in a gay relationship and i will say yes be it i will give you a marriage license 说话人A 13:38 嗯嗯。 说话人A 13:38 right 说话人A 13:39 yeah 说话人A 13:40 so so even in being sort of and that's the thing about liberalism right because liberalism is about giving licenses it's about private property so even marriage is about property rights right who has access to resources who has access to property and land who shares it with whom right so what i'm trying to also say is that while within the liberal frame 说话人A 14:05 right i'm not saying gay marriage is a bad thing i think it's a good thing for for people who want to get married and to give to their partner if they die they want to give to their partner their property right and not be taken away by somebody else they want economic security they want lower taxes and all those things right so in that sense it's good but what liberalism does is then it reduces the love between two people into a contract 说话人A 14:34 right into a private contract right which is which is the marriage license right and it turns it into a taxable relationship right and so it always reduce so the marriage license is what you have you don't have a marriage what you have is a legally recognized lang- marriage contract through which you can arrange the dispersal of your wealth or and responsibilities right so it's an economic relationship and that's what liberalism does it makes all relationships economic relationships 说话人B 15:08 so is the liberalism as the fundamental of capitalism is it 说话人B 15:14 yes 说话人A 15:14 oh yeah 说话人A 15:15 yes so liberalism is the philosophical roots that justify the economic system of capitalism 说话人A 15:24 oh 说话人A 15:25 and liberalism basically says that that human beings have a right to own other things in the world and that is the only credible relationship that's the only basis of a relationship between 说话人A 15:42 human beings and other objects in the world including other human beings right so liberalism also like slave ownership is within liberalism right so that's part of liberal philosophy that some human beings can own other human beings some human beings can own certain forests some human beings can own certain farms some human beings can own certain animals right so it's always a relationship of private ownership and that's what liberalism is 说话人A 16:10 oh 说话人A 16:10 right some human beings can own human rights right and other human beings cannot own human rights 说话人A 16:18 Does that make sense some human being can own the right to marry and other human beings do not have the right to marry right so it's about possession private possession ok ok yeah these are all great questions that you should ask in class. 说话人B 16:34 But i think like maybe those question is too simple for my classmate i think they are so smart you know that no. 说话人A 16:42 No they're not they're not i mean they are smart i'm not saying they're not smart i'm saying your your。. 说话人A 16:47 questions are not too simple i think they're important questions they're very important questions 说话人A 16:52 and it might be that one of your classmates is confused about exactly this question and they're also being shy right because they think that the other classmates are are are are smart or whatever right and so then nobody asks these questions and so everybody who needs to ask this question never learns anything 说话人A 17:12 嗯。 说话人A 17:13 does that make sense right so it's very important you'll be brave and you do it yeah 说话人A 17:17 ok。 说话人A 17:17 so Wednesday you should ask the first question 说话人B 17:21 ok sure i'll do that 说话人A 17:23 lovely lovely i look forward to that 说话人A 17:25 嗯。 说话人A 17:26 alright 说话人A 17:27 ok。 说话人A 17:27 ok i gotta run i gotta give my daughter dinner do you have any outstanding questions 说话人B 17:34 maybe for the like for the scores you mean that if i like ask for the first questions i can get a score is that what you mean 说话人A 17:42 yeah yeah 说话人B 17:44 so for the maximum score is ten 说话人B 17:47 ten 说话人B 17:48 ten ok 说话人B 17:49 Yeah. 说话人A 17:49 Yeah so you'll be able to catch up yeah it's it's not a big deal it's it'll just go week by week yeah. 说话人B 17:55 oh it's ten per week or ten per semester 说话人A 17:58 ten per semester 说话人A 18:00 oh ok 说话人B 18:01 yeah 说话人B 18:02 so i see that on the grade so the three is maximum and two is middle and one is the least 说话人B 18:09 so if i ask three questions i will get the total scores is that mean 说话人A 18:13 no no you just get one point 说话人A 18:14 oh 说话人A 18:15 for that week right this is one point per week 说话人B 18:18 oh one point oh so i get two points which is mean i ask two questions during the three weeks oh ok understand that 说话人B 18:27 Yeah. 说话人A 18:27 Yeah so i i think this last week also you asked uh uh you you made a contribution i i noted down on my i have a paper i i look at it. 说话人A 18:37 You. 说话人B 18:37 Look at everyone's conversations. 说话人B 18:39 oh my god that's so cool 说话人B 18:41 Yeah. 说话人A 18:41 Yeah all right all right i gotta run but tho- these are all amazing things and you know i look forward to your questions in in on wednesday ok. 说话人A 18:50 thank you so much 说话人A 18:51 all right all right have a great evening bye 说话人A 18:54 Evening bye. 说话人B 18:59 Oh my god i just having a meeting with my professor i'm so nervous about it. 说话人B 19:02 oh i'm so sorry 说话人B 19:03 it's ok i finish it i just finish it 说话人B 19:06 great what was it about 说话人B 19:07 about